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		<title>Programming Language Popularity &#8211; Part Four</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[software]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[arc]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[c]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[clojure]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[haskell]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[java]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[I compiled some programming language popularity statistics in April 2009, October 2009 and October 2010 . Here&#8217;s an update for September 2011:
I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and summed the results (previous posts averaged the results):
"implemented in &#60;language&#62;"
  "written in &#60;language&#62;"
Naturally this is of very limited utility, and the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I compiled some programming language popularity statistics in <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2009/04/21/programming-language-popularity/">April 2009</a>, <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2009/10/24/programming-language-popularity-part-two/">October 2009</a> and <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2010/10/08/programming-language-popularity-%E2%80%93-part-three/">October 2010</a> . Here&#8217;s an update for September 2011:</p>
<p>I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and summed the results (previous posts averaged the results):</p>
<pre class="code">"implemented in &lt;language&gt;"
  "written in &lt;language&gt;"</pre>
<p>Naturally this is of very limited utility, and the numbers are only useful when comparing relatively within the same search since the number of results Google returns can vary greatly over time.<br />
<!-- use ML and SML --></p>
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<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Language</th>
<th style="text-align: left;">Total</th>
<th style="text-align: right;">Prev. Position</th>
<th style="text-align: right;"> Position Delta</th>
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<tr>
<td>C</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">10,360,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PHP</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">10,351,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C++</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,495,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Python</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,759,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C#</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,335,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">4</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Java</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">4,890,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">8</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>2</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Perl</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,702,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>JavaScript</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,077,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">7</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ruby</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,654,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp Family<sup>1</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,022,870</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">11</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
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<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>FORTRAN</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">975,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">10</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tcl</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">594,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">12</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">486,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">14</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Haskell</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">450,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">16</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>2</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Erlang</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">419,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">13</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-2</td>
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<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lua</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">367,100</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">18</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>2</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>ML Family<sup>2</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">348,400</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
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<tr>
<td>COBOL</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">308,270</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">15</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Common Lisp</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">254,900</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">19</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>OCaml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">240,300</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">21</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Prolog</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">224,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">20</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Scala</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">203,400</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">23</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Scheme</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">184,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Smalltalk</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">129,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">24</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Clojure</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">84,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">27</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>2</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>(S)ML<sup>3</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">83,630</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">25</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Forth</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">69,980</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">26</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Caml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">24,470</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">28</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Io</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">30</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Arc</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">12,670</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">29</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><sup>1</sup> combines Lisp, Scheme, Common Lisp, Arc &amp; Clojure<br />
<sup>2</sup> combines OCaml, (S)ML, Caml<br />
<sup>3</sup> summed separate searches for sml and ml</p>
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		<title>Programming Language Popularity – Part Three</title>
		<link>http://lojic.com/blog/2010/10/08/programming-language-popularity-%e2%80%93-part-three/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[programming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[arc]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[c]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[clojure]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[haskell]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[java]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[javascript]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lisp]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[php]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[python]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ruby]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[scheme]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[sml]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I compiled some programming language popularity statistics in April 2009 and October 2009 . Here&#8217;s an update for October 2010:
I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:
"implemented in &#60;language&#62;"
  "written in &#60;language&#62;"
Naturally this is of very limited utility, and the numbers are only useful when comparing relatively [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I compiled some programming language popularity statistics in <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2009/04/21/programming-language-popularity/">April 2009</a> and <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2009/10/24/programming-language-popularity-part-two/">October 2009</a> . Here&#8217;s an update for October 2010:</p>
<p>I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:</p>
<pre class="code">"implemented in &lt;language&gt;"
  "written in &lt;language&gt;"</pre>
<p>Naturally this is of very limited utility, and the numbers are only useful when comparing relatively within one column since the number of results Google returns can vary greatly over time.<br />
<!-- use ML and SML --></p>
<table border="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Language</th>
<th style="text-align: right;">Apr 2009</th>
<th style="text-align: right;">Oct 2009</th>
<th style="text-align: right;">Oct 2010</th>
<th style="text-align: right;"> Position Delta</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PHP</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">680,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,083,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">14,096,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">+3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,905,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">16,975,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9,675,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C++</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">699,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,270,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,510,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>C#</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">349,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2,125,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,132,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+4</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Python</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">396,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,407,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,114,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">+1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Perl</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">365,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,132,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">4,675,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">+1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>JavaScript</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">102,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,163,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2,120,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+4</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Java</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">850,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,118,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,495,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Ruby</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">99,650</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">227,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,426,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+13</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>FORTRAN</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,621,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">770,850</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp Family<sup>1</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">176,507</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,489,650</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">399,685</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-6</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Tcl</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">44,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">382,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">313,400</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+5</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Erlang</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,285</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">161,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">188,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+12</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">61,900</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">486,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">174,050</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">+1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>COBOL</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">247,300</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">166,435</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+6</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Haskell</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,550</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">280,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">157,150</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+4</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>ML Family<sup>2</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">29,062</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,003,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">149,005</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Lua</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">13,065</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">131,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">128,150</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+9</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Common Lisp</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">20,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">554,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">112,750</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Prolog</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17,750</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">390,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">100,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-4</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>OCaml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">343,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">99,050</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Scheme</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">86,450</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2,100,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">82,650</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-13</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Scala</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,570</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">66,250</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">65,950</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+6</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Smalltalk</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9,105</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">187,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">56,950</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>(S)ML<sup>3</sup></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,173</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">590,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">42,130</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-12</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Forth</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,465</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">146,450</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">25,880</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Clojure</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">782</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">62,200</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">23,525</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">+3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Caml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,889</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">69,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">7,825</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Arc</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,775</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">286,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,710</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Io</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,760</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">198,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,025</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-7</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><sup>1</sup> combines Lisp, Scheme, Common Lisp, Arc &amp; Clojure<br />
<sup>2</sup> combines OCaml, (S)ML, Caml<br />
<sup>3</sup> summed separate searches for sml and ml</p>
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		<title>Programming Language Popularity &#8211; Part Two</title>
		<link>http://lojic.com/blog/2009/10/24/programming-language-popularity-part-two/</link>
		<comments>http://lojic.com/blog/2009/10/24/programming-language-popularity-part-two/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[programming]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[arc]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[c]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[clojure]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[erlang]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[forth]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[haskell]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[io]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[java]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[javascript]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lisp]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lua]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ocaml]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[perl]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[php]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[python]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ruby]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[scala]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[scheme]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[smalltalk]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[sml]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[tcl]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I compiled some programming language popularity statistics in April and mentioned I&#8217;d update the results in 6 months, so here they are:
I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:
"implemented in &#60;language&#62;"
"written in &#60;language&#62;"



Language
# Results
Apr 09
# Results
Oct 09
Position
Delta


C
1,905,500
16,975,000
0


C++
699,000
6,270,000
+1


Java
850,000
5,118,000
-1


PHP
680,000
5,083,500
0


Lisp Family1
176,507
3,489,650
+3


Python
396,000
3,407,000
-1


Perl
365,500
3,132,500
-1


C#
349,700
2,125,000
-1


Scheme
86,450
2,100,000
+2


FORTRAN

1,621,000
N/A


JavaScript
102,700
1,163,000
-1


ML Family2
29,062
1,003,800
+3



(S)ML3
5,173
590,700
+12


Common Lisp
20,600
554,500
+5


Lisp
61,900
486,500
-2


Prolog
17,750
390,500
+4


Tcl
44,800
382,000
-3


OCaml
22,000
343,500
0


Arc
6,775
286,500
+4


Haskell
22,550
280,500
-4


COBOL

247,300
N/A


Ruby
99,650
227,000
-10


Io
1,760
198,500
+6


Smalltalk
9,105
187,500
-1


Erlang
22,285
161,700
-7


Forth
6,465
146,450
-1


Lua
13,065
131,800
-5


Caml
1,889
69,600
0


Scala
3,570
66,250
-2


Clojure
782
62,200
0



1 combines Lisp, Scheme, Common Lisp, Arc &#38; Clojure
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I compiled some <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2009/04/21/programming-language-popularity/">programming language popularity</a> statistics in April and mentioned I&#8217;d update the results in 6 months, so here they are:</p>
<p>I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:</p>
<pre class="code">"implemented in &lt;language&gt;"
"written in &lt;language&gt;"</pre>
<table border="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Language</th>
<th style="text-align: right;"># Results<br />
Apr 09</th>
<th style="text-align: right;"># Results<br />
Oct 09</th>
<th style="text-align: right;">Position<br />
Delta</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,905,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">16,975,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>C++</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">699,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,270,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+1</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Java</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">850,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,118,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PHP</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">680,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,083,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Lisp Family<sup>1</sup></strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">176,507</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,489,650</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+3</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Python</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">396,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,407,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Perl</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">365,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,132,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C#</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">349,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2,125,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Scheme</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">86,450</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">2,100,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+2</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>FORTRAN</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,621,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">N/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>JavaScript</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">102,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,163,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>ML Family<sup>2</sup></strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">29,062</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,003,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+3</strong></td>
</tr>
<p><!-- use ML and SML --></p>
<tr>
<td><strong>(S)ML<sup>3</sup></strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">5,173</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">590,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+12</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Common Lisp</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">20,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">554,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+5</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">61,900</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">486,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Prolog</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">17,750</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">390,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+4</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tcl</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">44,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">382,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-3</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>OCaml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">343,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Arc</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,775</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">286,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+4</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Haskell</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,550</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">280,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-4</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>COBOL</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">247,300</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">N/A</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ruby</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">99,650</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">227,000</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-10</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><strong>Io</strong></td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,760</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">198,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><strong>+6</strong></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Smalltalk</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">9,105</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">187,500</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Erlang</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">22,285</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">161,700</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-7</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Forth</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">6,465</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">146,450</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-1</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lua</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">13,065</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">131,800</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-5</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Caml</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">1,889</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">69,600</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Scala</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">3,570</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">66,250</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">-2</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Clojure</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">782</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">62,200</td>
<td style="text-align: right;">0</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><sup>1</sup> combines Lisp, Scheme, Common Lisp, Arc &amp; Clojure<br />
<sup>2</sup> combines OCaml, (S)ML, Caml<br />
<sup>3</sup> summed separate searches for sml and ml</p>
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		<title>TriFunc.org</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I first became interested in functional programming when I was exposed to Python, Ruby &#038; JavaScript a number of years ago. Since then I&#8217;ve looked into Arc, Clojure, Common Lisp, Haskell, Logo, ML &#038; Scheme. I haven&#8217;t yet determined whether I&#8217;ll be more productive in any of them than I am with Ruby for developing [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first became interested in functional programming when I was exposed to Python, Ruby &#038; JavaScript a number of years ago. Since then I&#8217;ve looked into Arc, Clojure, Common Lisp, Haskell, Logo, ML &#038; Scheme. I haven&#8217;t yet determined whether I&#8217;ll be more productive in any of them than I am with Ruby for developing web applications, but I do find them quite interesting.</p>
<p>After bumping into a number of local programmers who expressed an interest in functional programming, I thought it might be a good time to start a local group that focused on functional programming languages, so I did a couple days ago.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://TriFunc.org">TriFunc.org</a> is a group for programmers who are interested in functional programming languages and live near the Research Triangle area of North Carolina.</p>
<p>If you live in the area and have an interest in functional programming languages, feel free to dive in and start participating in the Google Group discussions. Once we reach a critical mass, I expect we&#8217;ll produce a meeting schedule, etc., but that will depend on where the group wants to take this.</p>
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		<title>2009 Programming Language Plan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Background

The 2008 Programming Language Plan didn&#8217;t go as well as I hoped, so I&#8217;m regrouping for another go at it. I did make progress learning some Logo and teaching it to my daughters, and I worked through seven chapters of &#8220;Programming in Haskell&#8221; which was very enjoyable, but I also spent way too much time [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Background</h2>
<p>
The <a href="http://lojic.com/blog/2008/01/17/2008-programming-language-plan/">2008 Programming Language Plan</a> didn&#8217;t go as well as I hoped, so I&#8217;m regrouping for another go at it. I did make progress learning some Logo and teaching it to my daughters, and I worked through seven chapters of &#8220;Programming in Haskell&#8221; which was very enjoyable, but I also spent way too much time trying to decide which language(s) to learn without actually learning them.
</p>
<p>
I have now decided which languages I want to learn this year, so I figured I&#8217;d post this blog entry. In some respects, things haven&#8217;t changed much from last years plan, but my decisions are much less tentative which is encouraging. I&#8217;m glad to switch from <em>information gathering</em> to actually learning a few languages.
</p>
<h2>Motivation</h2>
<p>
When I switched from C++ to Java in 1996 and noticed a large increase in productivity; however, it didn&#8217;t occur to me to consider whether switching from Java to another language might also give me a similar boost in productivity. The job demand for Java was high during the 10 years I used it, and I was getting paid for my time vs. what I produced, so the oversight wasn&#8217;t too costly.
</p>
<p>
When I switched from Java to Ruby in 2006 I experienced a comparable, if not greater, boost in productivity as I had with the switch from C++ to Java. This time I considered the effect of programming language choice on productivity more carefully and began to wonder about the optimal programming language for me. As a small business owner, my primary consideration is productivity, not popularity or the interchangeableness of programmers.
</p>
<p>
I don&#8217;t think a perfect programming language exists in general, but I think there is an optimal language for me given my particular circumstances, the problems I want to solve, the type of software I want to develop, my way of thinking, my aesthetic tastes, etc.
</p>
<h2>The Problem</h2>
<p>
There is a cost to research programming languages to determine the optimal one, and there is a cost to switch programming languages, so the benefit of a new programming language needs to exceed those costs.
</p>
<p>
Additionally, a significant catch-22 exists in that to truly determine if a language is optimal, one must reach a level of proficiency with the language. There isn&#8217;t enough time to learn <em>all</em> of the candidate languages, so some filtering mechanism must be used first to narrow the choices to a reasonably small set. This filtering mechanism is theoretical by nature, but I think the subtle practicalities of a language have a significant effect on productivity.
</p>
<p>
I have a long term perspective for this task, so I don&#8217;t mind investing time researching programming languages, and I also don&#8217;t mind if I need to develop/acquire supporting libraries before being ultimately more productive than I am currently with Ruby and Rails.
</p>
<h2>The Process</h2>
<p>
I briefly entertained the idea of going about this research in a more systematic, scientific way. That might be a reasonable approach, but due to the following:
</p>
<ul>
<li>My laziness</li>
<li>The high degree of subjectivity in programming language choice</li>
<li>The lack of consensus among programming language researchers</li>
</ul>
<p>
I ended up with a fairly ad-hoc approach involving examining the following areas and trying to absorb enough information to formulate a plan:
</p>
<h3>Efficiency</h3>
<p>
Programming language efficiency is becoming increasingly important to me as Moore&#8217;s law loses steam, and power &amp; cooling issues become more prominent.
</p>
<p>
On the one hand, Ruby is near the bottom of the pack with respect to efficiency, but the productivity has been outstanding, and at the volume of transactions I&#8217;ve needed to deliver thus far, performance hasn&#8217;t been a problem.
</p>
<p>
On the other hand, if programming languages exist (and I believe they do) that have similar or greater <em>power</em> than Ruby but are compiled instead of interpreted, that would be an advantage.
</p>
<p>
Benchmarks are notoriously controversial with respect to the degree in which they predict performance, but I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re irrelevant. One popular benchmark site is: <a href="http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/">Programming Language Shootout</a>. I also created some micro-benchmarks of my own to test performance.
</p>
<p>
One negative result of Ruby being inefficient is the disparity in performance of code written in Ruby vs. library code, or extensions, written in C. This creates counter-intuitive scenarios where a piece of code that appears less efficient is actually more efficient because of the use of built-in code implemented in C. I don&#8217;t like thinking in those terms; I would much prefer that user written code in the language is much closer to the efficiency of built-in library code.
</p>
<h3>Concurrency</h3>
<p>
With the flattening of CPU MHz and proliferation of CPU cores, I think concurrency may continue to grow in importance. Although I develop mainly server side web applications which can take advantage of multiple cores by virtue of having multiple independent processes, I would prefer to have better concurrency mechanisms in the language/libraries directly.
</p>
<h3>Joy</h3>
<p>
I think I first heard <em>joy</em> used, in the context of programming languages, in the Ruby community &#8211; probably from Matz himself. I have to agree that programming in Ruby has been more joyful than previous programming languages.
</p>
<p>
I&#8217;m not sure exactly why this is, but I expect it has something to do with the effectiveness and productivity of Ruby, but it may be helped by the incredibly friendly Ruby community.
</p>
<h3>Fundamental Nature</h3>
<p>
My preference is for a programming language to minimize arbitrariness and to maximize orthogonality. In other words, I would prefer the language to have a minimal set of core concepts/axioms/operators/etc. that are built upon systematically.
</p>
<h3>Community</h3>
<p>
Whether my optimal language is <em>mainstream</em> or not is irrelevant to me, so I don&#8217;t need the programming language community to be large (and in fact, being <em>too</em> large is a detriment), but I do think it should be active enough that there are people available to help answer questions, write libraries, maintain/improve compilers, debuggers etc.
</p>
<p>
To this end, I spent time on various usenet groups, IRC channels and blogs. Occasionally asking questions, but mostly observing the dialog and interaction among the community members.
</p>
<h3>Education</h3>
<p>
What educational materials are available?
</p>
<p>
I tend to prefer learning from books, so searching Amazon to see what books are available, how well they&#8217;re received, etc. was helpful. Although I prefer books typically, in the exploratory stages, it&#8217;s cheaper to go through online materials, so searching the web for free PDFs was useful. The existence of a few good texts is also an indication of the vitality of community.
</p>
<h3>Productivity</h3>
<p>
Ultimately, I&#8217;m after the most productive language for me; however, I think productivity is the factor that requires the most proficiency with a language to judge, so it was the most difficult factor to research prior to learning a language. I was limited to anecdotal stories, case studies, personal testimonies, etc.
</p>
<h3>Licensing</h3>
<p>
I prefer open source licensing because I think programming languages with proprietary licensing are more likely to die.
</p>
<h2>The Final Candidates</h2>
<p>
I began with Ruby as the point of reference irrespective of Rails and other libraries. Even though Rails is an important factor in my current productivity, since I&#8217;m taking a long term view, I didn&#8217;t want to exclude a fantastic language simply because it&#8217;s lacking something that Ruby was also lacking N years ago.
</p>
<p>
Due to the cost of researching, learning and switching to a new programming language, I only considered languages that had the potential of offering a significant improvement in one or more areas without losing too much in other areas.
</p>
<p>
The candidates I eventually selected fell into two groups. Both groups have strong <em>functional</em> capabilities, good efficiency, and long, successful track records. I believe that even the best programming language designers make serious mistakes which can only be identified with the hindsight of years of use. It&#8217;s possible that someone is about to release a brand new language that has the potential to be the most productive for me personally; however, I&#8217;m not willing to take the risk to learn it.
</p>
<h3>The Lisp Family</h3>
<p>
Lisp has a very long track record of success and adaptability. In fact, if I was forced to program in a single programming language from now on, I would probably choose a Lisp since I think it would have the greatest likelihood of being able to adapt.
</p>
<p>
The Lisp family has dynamic typing which I&#8217;ve grown to love with Ruby, but most also allow type declarations for efficiency. Lisp also appears to have a more fundamental nature than most languages. I&#8217;ve heard it said that Lisp was more discovered than invented.
</p>
<p>
I first became interested in Lisp when I learned that Ruby was influenced by it. My interest was reinforced by some of Paul Graham&#8217;s essays &amp; books. I like the exploratory and dynamic nature of developing Lisp &#8211; this is mostly from reading comments of others, but I&#8217;ve tasted a small part of this when evaluating Lisp code in Emacs and having it be available immediately.
</p>
<p>
<strong>Logo</strong> is first on the list simply because it&#8217;s both a Lisp and a great language for teaching children how to program, so I can kill two birds with one stone.
</p>
<p>
<strong>Scheme</strong> is next because it&#8217;s a natural sequel to Logo and I <em>still</em> want to work through &#8220;The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs&#8221;. The fact that Paul Graham chose mzcheme to create his Arc language is a good &#8220;letter of recommendation&#8221;. Scheme <em>feels</em> the most fundamental, simple &amp; clean thus far.
</p>
<p>
<strong>Common Lisp</strong> is after Scheme due to its eminent practicality and completeness. It has plenty of warts, but also plenty of power and functionality. It&#8217;s been called a great, big, ball of mud &#8211; but in a good way ;)
</p>
<p>
Lastly, is <strong>Clojure</strong>. It&#8217;s last in the Lisp family because I want to learn Scheme &amp; Common Lisp first so I&#8217;ll be better equipped to judge Clojure. This will also allow more time for Clojure to mature. Clojure has a focus on functional programming &amp; concurrency that is <em>symbiotic</em> with the Java platform. The latter provides a quick start and access to Java libraries, the JVM infrastructure, etc., but my preference would be to not be dependent on the JVM in the long run. I&#8217;ll withhold judgment until I&#8217;ve learned it and used it for a while.
</p>
<h3>The ML Family</h3>
<p>
I&#8217;m least familiar with the ML family and with functional programming in general. I&#8217;ve spent most of my career studying and using imperative, object-oriented programming languages.
</p>
<p>
I think the ML family is worth studying because:
</p>
<ul>
<li>Functional programming may be beneficial with respect to concurrency.</li>
<li>Prog. Lang. researchers seem to be enamored with ML family.</li>
<li>There are enough anecdotal testimonies of productivity to warrant further study.</li>
</ul>
<p>
<strong>Standard ML</strong> is an important functional language that differs from Haskell in that it&#8217;s <em>impure</em>, i.e. it allows side effects, and it&#8217;s <em>strict</em>, i.e. not lazy. It shares Hindly-Milner static typing with Haskell. The community seems rather tiny, and I expect that if I go with a static typed language it will likely be Haskell, but I wanted to learn Standard ML first because of its historical importance and to be able to compare an impure/strict language with a pure/nonstrict language.
</p>
<p>
<strong>Haskell</strong> is probably the most different programming language from what I&#8217;m used to. This, in and of itself, has some advantages with respect to gaining new perspectives and ideas. In some ways, it&#8217;s a language that has taken things to extremes with respect to functional purity and laziness.
</p>
<p>
The community is <em>very</em> active. It offers a great compiler (GHC), software transactional memory, a decent base of libraries, etc.
</p>
<p>
At this early stage, I&#8217;m skeptical of static typing, functional purity and laziness, so becoming proficient in Haskell is a great opportunity to be able to determine how I feel about those.
</p>
<h2>The Plan</h2>
<p>
Rather than go through the candidates sequentially, I&#8217;m going to try and make progress on two tracks concurrently to allow me to compare concepts from both families:</p>
<table border="1" cellpadding="3">
<tr>
<th>ML Family</th>
<th>Lisp Family</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Standard ML</td>
<td>Logo</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Haskell</td>
<td>Scheme</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td>Common Lisp</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td>Clojure</td>
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I&#8217;m curious to find out how I feel about these languages after I&#8217;ve achieved some skill with them, but I think becoming proficient in the Lisp and ML families will be time well spent. At minimum, I&#8217;ll be better equipped to compare other languages.</p>
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		<title>Programming Language Popularity</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Despite the numerous ways in existence to quantify programming language popularity, I thought I&#8217;d throw yet another one into the mix. I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:

"implemented in &#60;language&#62;"
"written in &#60;language&#62;"

I&#8217;m very curious to see how these stats change over time, so I&#8217;ve added a calendar [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the numerous ways in existence to quantify programming language popularity, I thought I&#8217;d throw yet another one into the mix. I made a number of Google searches of the forms below and averaged the results:</p>
<pre class="code">
"implemented in &lt;language&gt;"
"written in &lt;language&gt;"
</pre>
<p>I&#8217;m very curious to see how these stats change over time, so I&#8217;ve added a calendar item to recompute them in six months. Leave a comment if you&#8217;d like to add a programming language to the list, and I&#8217;ll update this article and it will be included in the recomputation six months from now.</p>
<table border="0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th>Language</th>
<th># Results</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C</td>
<td>1,905,500</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Java</td>
<td>850,000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C++</td>
<td>699,000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>PHP</td>
<td>680,000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Python</td>
<td>396,000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Perl</td>
<td>365,500</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>C#</td>
<td>349,700</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp Family<sup>1</sup></td>
<td>176,507</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>JavaScript</td>
<td>102,700</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Ruby</td>
<td>99,650</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Scheme</td>
<td>86,450</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lisp</td>
<td>61,900</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Tcl</td>
<td>44,800</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>ML Family<sup>2</sup></td>
<td>29,062</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Haskell</td>
<td>22,550</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Erlang</td>
<td>22,285</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>OCaml</td>
<td>22,000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Common Lisp</td>
<td>20,600</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Prolog</td>
<td>17,750</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Lua</td>
<td>13,065</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Smalltalk</td>
<td>9,105</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Arc</td>
<td>6,775</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Forth</td>
<td>6,465</td>
</tr>
<p><!-- use ML and SML --></p>
<tr>
<td>(S)ML<sup>3</sup></td>
<td>5,173</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<tr>
<td>Scala</td>
<td>3,570</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Caml</td>
<td>1,889</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Io</td>
<td>1,760</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>Clojure</td>
<td>782</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><sup>1</sup> combines Lisp, Scheme, Common Lisp, Arc &amp; Clojure<br />
<sup>2</sup> combines OCaml, (S)ML, Caml<br />
<sup>3</sup> summed separate searches for sml and ml<br />
<strong>Update</strong> 4/23/09 added C#, Tcl per comment requests.</p>
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		<title>Logo, Ruby &amp; JavaScript</title>
		<link>http://lojic.com/blog/2007/08/31/logo-ruby-javascript/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been teaching my eldest daughter to program in Logo over the summer. Brian Harvey has posted PDF files for a set of excellent books on learning to program in Logo on his web site. The Berkeley version of Logo he&#8217;s produced is really excellent. It&#8217;s not just your typical turtle graphics language; it has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been teaching my eldest daughter to program in Logo over the summer. Brian Harvey has posted PDF files for a set of excellent books on learning to program in Logo on his <a href="http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/logo.html">web site</a>. The Berkeley version of Logo he&#8217;s produced is really excellent. It&#8217;s not just your typical turtle graphics language; it has arrays, macros, file processing, graphics, etc.</p>
<p>While perusing his site, I came across a tiny Logo program that demonstrates a little of its power. I was curious what it would look like in Ruby, so I ported it, then I had to see what it looked like in JavaScript.</p>
<p>The formatting is a little messed up due to Wordpress, but each of the three choices functions is 4 lines long.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to add other languages, that would be great!</p>
<p>See the <a href="http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/logo-sample.html">sample page</a> for example output.</p>
<p><strong>Logo</strong><br />
<code><br />
to choices :menu [:sofar []]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;if emptyp :menu [print :sofar stop]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;foreach first :menu [(choices butfirst :menu<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sentence :sofar ?)]<br />
end<br />
choices [[small medium large]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;[vanilla [ultra chocolate] lychee [rum raisin] ginger]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;[cone cup]]<br />
</code></p>
<p><strong>UPDATE 9/2/07</strong>: Got an even more concise solution from Brian Harvey:</p>
<pre>
to choices :menu
   foreach crossmap "sentence :menu "print
end
</pre>
<p><strong>Ruby</strong><br />
<code><br />
def choices menu, sofar=[]<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;if menu.empty?: puts sofar.join(' ')<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;else menu[0].each {|item| choices(menu[1..-1],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sofar + [item]) } end<br />
end<br />
choices [['small', 'medium', 'large'],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;['vanilla', 'ultra chocolate', 'lychee', 'rum raisin', 'ginger'],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;['cone', 'cup']]<br />
</code></p>
<p><strong>JavaScript</strong><br />
<code><br />
function choices(menu, sofar) {<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;if (emptyp(menu)) print(sofar);<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;else foreach(menu[0],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;function (x) {<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choices(menu.slice(1), sofar.concat(x)); });<br />
}<br />
choices([['small', 'medium', 'large'],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;['vanilla', 'ultra chocolate', 'lychee', 'rum raisin','ginger'],<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;['cone', 'cup']], []);<br />
</code></p>
<p>I had to create a few helpers for the JavaScript version:<br />
<code><br />
function emptyp(a) {<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;return a.length === 0;<br />
}<br />
function print(list) {<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;foreach(list, function (x) { document.write(x + ' '); });<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;document.write('&lt;br /&gt;');<br />
}<br />
function foreach(arr, f) {<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;for (var idx in arr) { f(arr[idx]); }<br />
}<br />
</code></p>
<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Use &lt;pre&gt; &lt;/pre&gt; tags to allow easier formatting of code. Bummer, I just discovered that Wordpress strips the &lt;pre&gt; tags from normal users :( I&#8217;ll go ahead and wrap code with it as they come in, so if your comment looks bad at first, it&#8217;ll be cleaned up shortly.</p>
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